A Faustina Junior Sestertius, Pudicitia seated reverse, plus a couple of Faustina Senior asses

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  1. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    A few weeks ago I came across this scarce Pudicitia SC sestertius of Faustina Junior. This is the variety with Pudicitia seated, facing left.

    This example is not in great shape. The surfaces are rough, especially on the obverse, and there's corrosion in spots. The reverse is really much better, with a nicely detailed Pudicitia seated, and that's why I purchased the coin.

    Roman Empire, circa 147/9 AD
    AE Sestertius
    Faustina Junior
    Obverse: Portrait of a young Faustina II, facing right.
    Reverse: Pudicitia seated, facing left, pulling gown with right hand.
    31 mm, 12h
    20.1 grams
    RIC #?
    Some smoothing.
    Scarce

    D-Camera  Faustina Junior, AE Sestertius, Pudicitia SC, Seated  20.1 g 11-11-20.jpg

    I also got a couple of Faustina Senior asses recently. Both coins are pretty low grade, but identifiable.

    Roman Empire, circa 141 AD
    AE as
    Faustina Senior
    Obverse: Deified portrait of Faustina Senior, facing right.
    Reverse: Aeternitas seated on globe, facing left, with scepter to the right, extended right hand.
    RIC 1159
    27.5 mm, 6 h.
    10.8 grams
    Rough surfaces and cleaned (re-toning).

    D-Camera  Faustina Senior, AE As, AETERNITAS, on globe, RIC 1159, 10.92 g 11-11-20.jpg

    The following coin is part of three coin lot from France.

    This is very shiny coin (treated with Ren Wax), and the reflective surfaces obscure some detail.

    Roman Empire, circa 141 AD
    AE as
    Faustina Senior
    Obverse: DIVAFAV STINA, Deified portrait of Faustina Senior, facing right.
    Reverse: Ceres standing left, holding grain ears and torch.
    RIC III, pg 167, #1169
    27.5 mm, 6 h.
    9.6 grams
    RIC #?
    25 mm, 1h.
    9.6 grams
    Somewhat rough surfaces.

    D-Camera  Faustina Senior, AE As, Augusta SC, Ceres, c.86, 9.6 g 11-11-20.jpg
     
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  3. Ocatarinetabellatchitchix

    Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Well-Known Member

    Very nice new trio. I'm pretty sure @Roman Collector will visit your thread soon...;)
     
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  4. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    Nice Faustina bronzes!
    Personal preference is Faustina Junior. Like her various hairstyles.
     
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  5. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I do love a good Faustina thread, indeed!

    Nice coins, @robinjojo! I particularly like the sestertius of Faustina II. It's scarce and I don't have an example in my collection. It's RIC 1381; BMCRE 2142. It was one of the first coins issued by Antoninus Pius for his daughter. The obverse legend, FAVSTINAE AVG PII AVG FIL is the earliest and is dated by Strack to 147-149 and by Sear to AD 148-152.

    The Faustina I AETERNITAS as is also scarce and I don't own an example of this coin, either. It likely dates to the large issue of AD 150 to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the empress's death. It was only issued in the middle bronze denomination, without a corresponding sestertius. It comes in three bust varieties: bare-headed, veiled, and veiled and stephaned. Yours is RIC 1159; BMCRE 1551; Cohen 22; Strack 1266.

    The third one is challenging because of the lack of legible inscriptions. I suspect it reads DIVA FAVSTINA on the obverse, simply because there isn't a reverse type with the earlier DIVA AVG FAVSTINA legend that this could be. I don't believe the reverse is Ceres, for she holds her right hand too high; on the issues with Ceres holding grain ears and torch, her arm is angled much lower to the ground, such as:

    Faustina Sr AVGVSTA S C Ceres short torch sestertius.jpg
    I wonder if it is RIC 1178; BMCRE 1581; Cohen 114; Strack 1295, with Vesta, veiled, standing l., holding palladium and long torch, such as the example in the British Museum:

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    I also wonder about RIC 1155; BMCRE 1540; Cohen 29; Strack 1263, with the AETERNITAS S C legend and Juno (?), veiled, standing front, head l., extending r. hand and holding vertical scepter. Here is the example in the British Museum:

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    So, I'm not sure the identity of your third coin. I don't have one in my collection to share.

    Enjoy your coins!
     
  6. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Thank you. I don't really focus on Roman coinage, resulting in a rather disjointed collection, eclectic I guess some would call.
     
  7. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Thanks.

    This is the first early Faustina II coin that I have ever owned. I must say that's a very coy depiction of Pudicitia. I've seen the standing Pudicitia variety, and she appears to be hitching her skirt.
     
  8. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Thank you, and thanks for the information. I am very sorry about the bad quality of the Faustina I as with Ceres photo. The camera is picking up every imperfection and creating blurry distortions. I need to take a clearer picture of this coin, so I need to experiment with lighting.

    The legend is readable with the coin in hand.

    The obverse legend reads DIVAFAV STINA, with the break occurring above her portrait.

    The reverse has a rough shiny surface (as does the obverse) , but enough letters are readable for the legend AVGVSTA. The spacing appears, from left to right, to be AVG, then the head of Ceres, followed by VSTA on the other side of her scepter.

    it seems that the engraver attempted to cram DIVAFAVSTINA on the left side of the obverse, but ran out of room, or the engraver just decided to put as many letters to the left of her portrait, and the remainder to the right. It's kind of strange, but it could be that this coin had a rather big production run, so quality control, such as existed back then, was minimal for this issue.
     
  9. Muzyck

    Muzyck Rabbits!

    I just imaged this coin I purchased within the last few weeks from a favorite seller for moderns. I have been collecting modern world coins for decades but have been adding ancients in the last few years that I find with nice eye appeal to broaden the collection.

    Apparently this one was sent to Stephen Album for auction 506 but went unsold.

    Faustina Junior, 146-176
    AR denarius, 3.26g
    RIC-497

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  10. OutsiderSubtype

    OutsiderSubtype Well-Known Member

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    Faustina I. Deified late wife of Antoninus Pius. Circa 150 CE. Orichalcum sestertius. 32mm, 21.38g. Rome mint.

    Obverse: DIVA FAVSTINA, bust of Faustina right.

    Reverse: AETERNITAS S C, Aeternitas standing left, holding a phoenix on a globe in her right hand and holding her skirt with her left hand. Van Meter 18/1; RIC 1105.

    My understanding is that the most recent scholarship suggests that this type was minted around the ten year anniversary of Faustina I's death.
     
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  11. Herodotus

    Herodotus Well-Known Member

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    Diva Faustina Senior. Died AD 140/1. Æ Dupondius. Rome mint.
    Struck under Antoninus Pius, AD 146-161.
    O: Draped bust right
    R: Vesta standing left, sacrificing with patera over altar and holding palladium.
    RIC III 1180
     
  12. Herodotus

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  13. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    On many (most?) issues with the later DIVA FAVSTINA legend, the break in the inscription comes in two varieties: DIVA-FAVSTINA and DIVA FAV-STINA. These are not given separate numbers by the editors of RIC, though the British Museum catalog notes the breaks in the inscriptions of all coins, on obverse and reverse.

    I'd like to see a better photo of your coin when you are able to post it.
     
  14. Orielensis

    Orielensis Well-Known Member

    Interesting sestertius. That type of Pudicitia reverse appears to be much more common for Otacilia Severa and other later empresses:
    Rom – Otacilia Severa, Sesterz, Pudicitia.png
    Otacilia Severa, Roman Empire, AE sestertius, 244–249 AD, Rome mint. Obv: MARCIA OTACIL SEVERA AVG; bust of Otacilia Severa, diademed, draped, r. Rev: PVDICITIA AVG; Pudicitia, draped, veiled, seated l., r. hand drawing veil and holding sceptre in l. hand; in exergue, SC. 31mm, 17.62g. Ref: RIC IV, Philip I 209.

    Here is a standing version of Pudicitia for Herennia Etruscilla, struck from a worn die and purchased from the last FSR bargain list:
    Rom – Herennia Etruscilla, Antoninian, Pudicitia.png
    Herennia Etruscilla, Roman Empire, AR antoninianus, 249–251 AD, Rome mint. Obv: HER ETRVSCILLA AVG; bust of Herennia Etruscilla, diademed, draped, on crescent, r. Rev: PVDICITIA AVG; Pudicitia, draped, veiled, standing l., drawing veil with r. hand, holding sceptre in l. hand. 22mm, 4.13g. Ref: RIC IV Trajan Decius 58.
     
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  15. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Nice coins. Here's my example of the Faustina II seated Pudicitia sestertius (RIC 1381) - there's no reverse legend remaining, so I am basing my attribution on the figure:

    Faustina II - Sest. Pudicitia NC lot June 2020 (0).jpg
    Faustina II Æ Sestertius
    (c. 147-150 A.D.)
    Rome Mint

    FAVSTINAE AVG PII [AVG FIL], draped bust right / [PVDICITIA], Pudicitia seated left, drawing out veil with right hand, left hand in lap, S C in field.
    RIC 1381; BMCRE 2143.
    (26.33 grams / 29 x 27 mm)
     
  16. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    kool pickups Mike...i'm almost convinced mine is a dupondius, but there's a shadow of doubt....(and @Roman Collector has told me a dozen times who's on the reverse, but i can't remember:oldman:...making a flip & ID for it TODAY! :D) Faustina l dupondius 001.JPG Faustina l dupondius 003.JPG Diva Faustina Ae 25mm 11.09gms
     
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  17. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Vesta holding a Palladium and scepter.
     
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  18. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    :D...thank you...again! :):(writing it down as we type/speak:writer:)
     
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  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice AE's, @robinjojo ! I like that little collection!

    FAUSTINA II / Jr


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    RI
    Faustina Jr 161-175 CE
    Ar Denarius 17mm 3g
    Faustina II, wife of Marcus Aurelius and daughter of Antoninus Pius, struck under Antoninus Pius.
    FAVSTINA – AVGVST Draped bust of Faustina right
    AVGVSTI – PII FIL Spes standing left, holding flower and raising skirt.
    Ex: @Brian Bucklan
     
  20. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    My Faustina Senior has Pietas in the reverse.
    It is an AE Sestertius. 29mm, 21.97g.
    Rome Mint. RIC1127
    FaustinaI AE.jpg
     
  21. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    That's a match with my as, at least for the obverse, with the legend reading DIVAFAV STINA.

    The reverse of your coin depicts Pietas, while my coin has Ceres.

    This leads me to wonder if the same engraver created the dies for both coins, a possibility.
     
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  22. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    That's sure a possibility. Maybe the reverse die breaks too early, so have to match with something else. :happy:
     
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